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Thanks for this information! I’ve been briefly looking into both but chose RD only because they do have in-penson meetings here in South FL

Starting my own meetings look out for the esoteric association of psychedelic recovery 🙏 we we have mind melds instead of dogma

I sincerely appreciate the education my friend.

I’m new here and although I understand Levine’s perspective, his over zealous ‘attachment’ to the or a brand seems antithetical to both Buddhist philosophy and/or 12 step principles. I’m sure this irony was immediately…

Thanks for the breakdown. I’m not a fan of the recovery dharma book but went to a couple good meetings, and glad it exists for people. Also, Noah is a great person and RR is beautiful.

Refuge recovery saved me and RefConX was amazing! We carry the baggage if we choose. I appreciate the transparency of RR about what happened. We let go and move on and commit to dharma, Buddha, and more greatly the sangha!

It’s been 5 years just went to Refcon 10! It was awesome!! Noah is taking his name off the book for the 2nd edition of the refuge recovery book! I’m really grateful for my refuge recovery sahnga but I understand and respect it’s not for everyone :) all peace and love

Refuge recovery has been great for me!

Thanks for the video im new to Recovery Dharma :)

Best and most easily understandable explanation of karma I’ve ever heard. Thanks for this. ❤

Honestly great video. Both are great if your trying to get clean.

Thank you, this is helpful. I'm grateful to have found Recovery Dharma! I'll just throw it out there that a lot of folks in the US can probably find Refuge Recovery at their public library if they want to read it but prefer not to buy a copy.

I’ve come to this video a year after it was released, but am grateful for coming across it and having the subject disentangled. I started AA just before the pandemic and had noticed a lot of similarities with Buddhism, and didn’t accept that I was the first to notice. One day at lunch, I searched a bit about the subject, and read about Refuge Recovery. I was fascinated to find something that very clearly found a lot of the same similarities that I had noticed. At the end of lunch, I left my studio, which is next to my town’s public library. On the free giveaway book cart at the library was the RR book, right there for my taking, only 20 minutes after learning about it. The schism of RR and RD was unfolding at the time, and it made my relationship to the book difficult. Also, certain factions at my AA home group disapproved of anyone working with literature that was not AA in origin. I fully appreciate AA, and respect the process and what it has done for so many people, but i realized it wasn’t for me. I managed 1.5 years sober, and returned to drinking. I won’t go into details here, but it was worthwhile at the time, and I benefitted greatly from the experience, but i recognize it is time again to be sober. I am uncomfortable returning to AA, which is the only option where I live. All this to say, I am looking at alternatives, and the RR book keeps presenting itself to me, and I appreciate your explanation of the relationship, the separation of the quality of the RR book from the personality of Noah, so that I can be comfortable working from that book.

Very interested in this. Thank you for posting

"What waits for me? A whore , a bullet or thug,.. what waits for me? A whore a bullet or thug. Room 13.. room 13. That's cool 😎 bro that's cool cuz... (Rm 13). Didn't want to stay there anyway.....❤

Thanks for having done this. I moved and my community in Florida is nothing like it was in Philadelphia. I needed to come back to this. Ty again

I love the first edition of RD and I credit this program for my sobriety. I do not like the new second edition and our Sangha has considered switching to Refuge. I find some of the new verbage to be controversial and discriminatory. The second edition has truly split up and hurt the Sangha I was apart of. I don't partake in this cancel culture society we live in, and RD 2.0 is "tolerance for everyone, except for those we don't agree with."

sorry i will have to stick to aa although i had so much hope. starts with disrespecting the lord buddha 'he believee in gods in the sky". fantastic that u r doing public domain. fine to be an atheist. but despicable to be disrespectful to the lord buddha. 5 years sobriety, no contact with monastics, i am so sad. please at least put kevin griffin on the board or adjahn amaro who has also overcome addiction. 😢

Thanks for the video my friend!

I love Jer's meditations on zoom Recovery Dharma groups. I really can't comment about Refuge Recovery....though I have the book. I have the Recovery Dharma book. I really don't know why, but the title of RECOVERY DHARMA drew me to it. I've been going to meetings ever since. I like how it addresses many additions and cross-addictions and habits. May All Beings Live Happily 🙏

Just went to my first RD meeting last night and felt as if id come home. I read RR and also felt i had made a momentous discovery 🤷 i think refuge is better written but i feel more comfortable getting behind RD, at the end of the day ill do ANYTHING to stay sober... I feel similar to how i do with the bassnectar scandal, sure hes a POS but it doesnt make the music he produced any less impressive.

Thank you for your videos. I watched the one about Refuge/Dharma first and now that I know why Recovery Dharma exists I think I’ll try some meetings. I’ve been in Refuge for a year but never knew the whole story. In fact, I was told at one point that both groups were Noah’s 😮

Thanks for this. ❤

I met noah while all this was happening. Along with some of his close acquaintances. It was blown way out of proportion for sure he's a good dude

Refuge recovery was better imo

I am new to Recovery Dharma. 3 online meetings. I have done many programs. This one is what I have prayed about. I would like to know how to attend your meetings. Thank u-thank u-thank u.

Also as a recovering addict those books are very valuable much more effective than AA or NA imho

Thanks for that interesting video. I have a question, I don't wanna be unpolite and english is not my language. You say your pronouns are they and them. Does that mean plural? In german it would be plural, i think. So if I say something about you, do I have to say "They have" or "They has"? If it is plural, do you feel like more than one person? Sorry, I am really curios. I already heard someone else say that his pronoun is they, but I did not undestand it, because in german we don't have it. ❤ Lots of love

Thank you for this informative video

It sounds like the board wanted Noah to step away so they had him Me Too’d.

Dharma recovery has really helped me a lot! A couple years ago when I first got clean I brought it to the halfway house i was living in and the house started having a meeting once a week forllowing the guidelines in the book - we all really enjoyed it and found it spoke to us. I wish there was more of it here in CT!

Such a great delivery of the RR book's meditation! Thank you!

I’m having an extremely challenging time coming back to NA/AA and how rigid I’ve been digging into my step one and the massive shame. AA feels like a really disappointed parent and it’s just tough. I wanna check it out and I’m so grateful to have other options. I really need some help but I’m so scared to hurt myself again with the beating up my shame. It’s really hurting me

Im 3 seconds in and hit the like button. Thanks Jer ❤

Meditation is potent. I really enjoyed this video and am so grateful to have found R D❤

Recovery Dharma has been great for me.

I'm someone who was greatly harmed in a lifelong relationship with evangelical Christianity. I'm also a childhood abuse survivor. I literally found out about this program on Reddit yesterday and Googled it and found this video. I'm devastated. Where we can turn where there are good people? What I'm hearing is it's impossible to trust even a Buddha teacher..... Do I need people to be perfect ? No, but I need them to be good . At least have goodness they can access when dealing with other humans .... To read his quotes in LA article made my skin crawl. I hear you saying that no program is safe because it contains humans. Pretty much my experience of my childhood. So devastating. There is literally nothing for people who want to not be harmed inside of a group.... Literally nothing.

I'm an addictions counselor and this makes me sad. I have 12 years in recovery and I'm a wholelistic counselor I started refuge at my facilities. Even if Noah isn't good the program is.

Thanks or explaining this. I'd like to add, the Jezebel article is terrible "journalism" it's not a good source to site.

"An encouragement of intoxication in Buddhist comunities????"

Also, a brilliant idea done with mutual support with an unfortunate choice to put a name on a book.☹️ Bill W was encouraged NOT to put HIS NAME on it.

Noah invoking the Buddhist monk chant already gives me a sense of profound self importance that violates a recovery program of EQUALS. No one having authority OVER.☹️Jack Kornfirld, Tara Brach etc in my direct experience have never done that invocation.

There are a lot of things I don't like about AA, but the tradition of anonymity is crucial. What I am witnessing here is the complete opposite.

I would like to add my personal, direct experience of both of these groups and books. I am a process addiction and relationship addiction individual. I struggled in The Refuge Recovery meetings because they were so focused on substance addiction that I often felt uncomfortable when I shared. But the joy that brought me to the room itself was the uniting of all of us as human beings who suffer by attaching just something on the healthy in order to avoid facing the suffering inherent in reality. There was a lessening of the "us against them" syndrome. When the meeting started shifting to using the Recovery Dharma book all my discomfort dissipated. Each of us as individuals were able to focus on our personal recovery from whatever our addictive-obsessive behavior was and there was no seemingly narrow or more acceptable focus. I am very grateful for ALL recovery, but especially Recovery Dharma🙏

Greatful for your effort to share your experience🙏 love RD - my personal preference💕

I started going to Refuge Recovery 8 years ago. My previous sponsor of 4 years ended up getting into codependency, dating ex cons, hanging out more with the NA crowd. I saw a very negative change and she was running the Refuge Recovery meeting here for years. First in person, then the venue closed then online. She just let the meeting die. I would’ve taken it over if I could. It gives me hope this is a new thing. Are they popping up everywhere? Could I run one in my city?

Yeah you can NOT have a program with leaders who have special status. Duh. The Twelve Traditions wins AGAIN. JFC. 🤦🏻‍♂️